Episode 179: All Issues Self-Care

This week, we’re sharing our self-care routines, together with psychological well being, bodily well being, skincare stuff, and new issues we need to strive. 

We’re additionally being form of random, and I’m sharing all my favourite glowing seltzer waters and Emma’s sharing her salt float expertise!

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Present Notes:

Learn Emma’s weblog publish about her expertise with vascular laser remedy.

Laser therapies we’ve tried:

  • Laser hair elimination
  • Vascular Laser Remedy
  • Microneedling with PRP

Motion + methods we scale back stress:

Emma – group health at her native YMCA, yoga, and strolling exterior

Elsie – strolling and a yoga class from theworkoutwitch.com

Psychological well being:

Remedy, being inventive, and having associates

One thing new you’ve tried lately:

Emma – challenges

Elsie – specializing in shifting

One thing you need to strive within the close to future: 

Elsie – swimming every single day and a bunch health class

Responsible pleasure treasure: 

Elsie – All of the BEST seltzer water drinks:

Emma – jewellery making:

Take a look at Emma’s weblog publish about shrinky dinks.

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Episode 179 Transcript:

Elsie: You’re listening to The Stunning Mess Podcast. This week we’re sharing our self-care routines, together with psychological well being, bodily well being, skincare stuff, and the brand new issues we need to strive. We’re additionally being form of random and I’m sharing my favourite glowing seltzer waters, and Emma is sharing her horrific salt float expertise. Okay, let’s lead with the salt float. Within the define it says, Emma’s salt float ick. Inform us all the things, Emma, begin from the start as a result of I bear in mind you have been excited to do this.

Emma: Yeah, I used to be and I’ve no regrets about attempting it as a result of it’s enjoyable to strive new issues. So for those who’ve by no means heard of a salt float earlier than, as a result of I’m form of new to listening to about it, I had by no means heard about it until my mother-in-law informed me she does them generally with associates. She’s completed it together with her husband, my father-in-law too. So she informed me about it. I had by no means actually heard of it, however basically it’s like a sensory deprivation sort tank, that’s the kind of factor. The one I went to in any case is that this huge form of industrial-looking tank and inside there’s like sufficient water that it will perhaps come as much as my knees. I’m 5’4″, however, and there’s a ton, I don’t know the way a lot, however a ton of like epson salt in it or salt, I believe it’s epson salt, however there’s salt. As a result of the thought is you’ll be able to float in it and also you don’t must strive all of it. It’s not like a swimming pool is fairly simple to drift in. However that is like, no, actually, you couldn’t actually sink your self until you’re like, flailing round. It makes you weightless. 

Elsie: What did it really feel like while you first stepped in? 

Emma: To me, it felt very slimy as a result of the water may be very thick as a result of it has a lot salt in it, so I didn’t like that. My mother-in-law informed me about this, and only for the document, she’s really actually superior at self-care. The primary time I ever received a therapeutic massage was as a result of my mother-in-law purchased it for me as a birthday reward, I believe. And this was additionally a birthday reward for my mother-in-law. She was like, would you want a therapeutic massage or did you wanna strive the salt float? As a result of we had talked about it beforehand and I used to be like, oh, I wanna strive the salt float. So she received me a present certificates and it was very candy, despite the fact that I didn’t find yourself liking it, it was nonetheless actually, actually candy. Anyway, so she’s actually nice at self-care and so I believed, oh, this sounds attention-grabbing. And the one she purchased me, had just a little little bit of sauna time. I like a sauna. So I used to be simply hanging out within the sauna, chilling out, after which I went to go do the salt float it’s a factor that numerous individuals get pleasure from, however I disliked it a lot. I left after like 10 minutes. I had like an hour that I might float in there for, however I left after about 10 minutes, and on the place I went, there have been two sorts of salt floats. There’s one the place it’s extra of like an open house as a result of some individuals really feel claustrophobic, within the tank. I’ve by no means felt claustrophobic earlier than, so I don’t assume that’s a factor for me, numerous individuals have that they don’t wish to be in enclosed areas. I don’t really feel like I’ve that. I’m extra of a worry of heights individual, so I used to be like, I believe I’ll be nice within the tank and it didn’t trouble me to be within the tank. It’s pitch darkish. So that you get in there and there’s like just a little mild and it turns off inside like 30 seconds or a minute and there’s music enjoying in the beginning, after which it slowly fades out after which it’ll slowly fade again in in order that you already know when your time’s up since you actually, you’ll be able to’t take your telephone in there and the thought is that you simply utterly are within the darkness. You’re floating, you’ll be able to simply utterly calm down. And lots of people find it irresistible. I simply thought it felt slimy and I used to be form of attempting to drift, however you already know, you actually don’t have to strive. However I simply didn’t prefer it, so I left her like 10 minutes, and the gal on the entrance desk who had helped me like, you already know, prepare and go within the room. And he or she informed me like all of the issues, she was like, ah, so it wasn’t for you? And I used to be like, no, it wasn’t, I didn’t prefer it. I used to be so embarrassed, however I used to be like, I’m simply not gonna keep simply because I really feel embarrassed to go away, however I used to be like, I simply thought that is it for me. 

Elsie: Yeah. Okay, so I had agreed with Emma that I’d do it additionally, and there’s like a few locations which have it the place I reside. I used to be that means to do it and we have been gonna discuss it on the podcast and as quickly as she texted me and informed me she hated it, I used to be like so relieved that I didn’t must, I don’t assume I spotted I like, simply didn’t need to. I used to be placing it off as a result of I don’t know, I simply didn’t just like the sound of it. So I’m not stunned that, and I’ve heard different individuals who hated it, however I’ve additionally heard individuals who actually prefer it. So I suppose it’s most likely simply a type of extremely private issues like cilantro. 

Emma: Yeah, like cilantro is like, I do know individuals who hate massages. They’re like, I simply can’t calm down, I don’t need somebody touching me. I don’t like being bare or principally bare. And I get that. However I like a therapeutic massage personally too, so it’s like, you already know, individuals like various things. You gotta discover what’s for you. And this was not for me.

Elsie: Nicely, I believe it’s humorous although, and I believe it’s form of cool that you simply identical to received up and left, when you knew that it was zero.

Emma: I believe youthful, Emma wouldn’t have completed that as a result of I used to be like, I’m gonna must stroll previous the entrance desk woman. And I additionally felt so unhealthy. I used to be like, oh, I’m gonna have to inform my mother-in-law ’trigger she’s gonna ask me the way it went. And I don’t need her to really feel like I didn’t like her reward, simply all this stuff. After which I used to be like, Hey, you’ll be able to simply go away and it’s okay, and that’s what I did.

Elsie: No, I believe stuff like that it’s attention-grabbing to try to that’s a part of the enjoyable is like realizing that you simply won’t prefer it, it’s polarizing. So Cool. 

Emma: Yeah. I’m completely satisfied to have tried it cuz it was undoubtedly an expertise and like I mentioned, it’s like this industrial tank. I don’t know, however I really feel like I might use that in a narrative sometime. It’s undoubtedly a factor. I imply, it’s form of in Stranger Issues, that’s how she goes the wrong way up like floating within the salt water. 

Elsie: Did you ever watch the TV present referred to as The Leftovers as a result of there’s a extremely bizarre half the place there in little tanks like that in that present, it’s creepy. Yeah, for certain, however I liked that present. I used to be like one of many solely individuals, I like liked it. 

Emma: I haven’t seen it, however I’ve seen the posters for it and stuff and it appeared attention-grabbing. Not essentially spiritual, however one thing like that.

Elsie: Okay, so on this episode we’re gonna discuss all about self-care stuff. A number of the stuff we’re gonna undergo is lasers, facials, motion, methods to scale back stress remedy, psychological well being stuff, one thing we’ve tried, one thing we wanna strive. So let’s begin with the lasers and facials. So final time we talked about something like this, I bear in mind you shared that you simply have been doing laser hair elimination and it was such as you simply began and I began doing it proper after you, so we are able to each discuss it. It’s such a journey. 

Emma: For those who informed me that you simply have been doing it, I suppose I forgot trigger I’m like, oh, you’re doing it. Cool. 

Elsie: Yeah, I began a extremely very long time in the past. Okay, so laser hair elimination, I’ll attempt to say it as brazenly as I can, however with out saying something that’s gross. I believe it’s just a little little bit of a private factor.

Emma: Yeah. Don’t wanna flip individuals off.

Elsie: Skip by this half for those who like I don’t wanna hear something about it in any respect. However my husband doesn’t wanna hear something about it in any respect, like something, so I simply don’t, which is ok. I’ve informed numerous my associates about it as a result of I believe it’s the kind of factor that for those who’re even contemplating doing it, you wanna hear from another person who’s completed it. Like how unhealthy is it? Is it a giant deal? And I’ve seen numerous individuals on-line say that laser hair elimination doesn’t harm and I believe it hurts loads. So I believe it’s very attention-grabbing how totally different individuals understand ache and perhaps it’s totally different lasers. I don’t know. I do not know, however inform us about your expertise. 

Emma: I simply did my bikini space. What areas are you doing? 

Elsie: Yeah, so I did the bikini after which I did the armpits to this point after which as soon as I’ve form of been into it, I spotted I remorse not doing the legs and I’m gonna return for the legs. So final time I requested which one’s worse and he or she mentioned, if you are able to do the bikini, you are able to do something, so simply do the legs. 

Emma: That might be my guess too, if you are able to do the bikini space, most likely you possibly can do the rest. My gal additionally informed me, as a result of I’m additionally contemplating legs, however I don’t assume I’m gonna do it. However she mentioned that decrease legs are literally no huge deal in any respect, it’s extra higher legs and thighs. They could be a little extra delicate. However once more, everyone’s totally different. I don’t agree with this web factor that laser hair elimination doesn’t harm in any respect. Don’t agree. So the place I went to, gives a numbing cream you can buy and take a look at. I didn’t get that once I began laser hair elimination, I used to be nonetheless breastfeeding. I used to be like form of on the center to the tail finish of breastfeeding and you may’t use it for those who’re breastfeeding. So I simply didn’t have the choice however for those who aren’t breastfeeding, you possibly can strive that and I most likely would’ve completed it if I’d had the choice, however my gal additionally informed me, she was like, simply take ibuprofen like half-hour earlier than you come right here, and that may assist too. It simply form of takes the sting off. In order that’s what I normally do. I believe it hurts, I believe it appears like somebody’s snapping at you with a rubber band. That’s what it feels wish to me. So it’s not the best ache ever. 

Elsie: To me, it’s like stabbing with needles just a little bit like stabbing, stabbing, stabbing.

Emma: Yeah, I believed a tattoo was worse, personally, however I even have tattoos on my forearms, which is a really totally different space than my bikini space, so, I don’t know. 

Elsie: Yeah, I’ll say I believe it’s fairly unhealthy, however the execs of it are, it’s actually brief. It’s lower than 10 minutes to do all the things I do each time. So it’s very brief. I hate it, nevertheless it’s prefer it’s completed earlier than you’ve even began it, it’s very fast. And the opposite factor that’s cool is correct after you get it, the hair in that space doesn’t develop for a extremely very long time, so it’s good. It’s such as you get this immediate satisfaction. They are saying you need to go 5 or 6 instances to get it utterly gone. However I simply at all times get pleasure from it proper after I am going that it’s like the entire month nearly, it’s like nothing, which is sweet. It’s like one much less factor to consider. So yeah, I’d suggest it. I believe it’s undoubtedly price it. The place I went to was not very costly. I received a greater value by paying the entire thing upfront. 

Emma: Similar. Yep, they have been like, there’s a reduction for those who pay in any respect. And I used to be like, signal me up. I like this low cost. 

Elsie: Yeah. It’s not nice, however everybody who has had waxing says that the laser will not be as unhealthy, in order that’s good.

Emma: Sure, and waxing simply doesn’t final as lengthy. I’ve solely completed waxing as soon as, however I believed it was just a little bit worse than laser and it doesn’t final as lengthy. Laser, it lasts considerably indefinitely. You’ll be able to develop extra hair while you’re older, our our bodies change over time, like over years and years, however typically, no. So I believe it’s very price it. I’d undoubtedly suggest it to anybody contemplating, that’s my expertise. Clearly, do no matter you need along with your physique, however I additionally wanna put it on the market for anybody contemplating it doesn’t work on blonde hair. And it might not work on mild purple hair both. It’s important to have darkish hair. I overlook why they might clarify it to you, a technician greater than me. However it has one thing to do with the foundation of the hair the laser can’t do blonde hair.

Elsie: You will have some distinction in order that the laser can see. Okay. Let’s discuss different sorts of lasers and different sorts of facials. Any form of med spa stuff that you simply’ve tried?

Emma: Yeah. So I’ve a publish about my vascular laser expertise, so we’ll hyperlink that within the present notes for those who wanna examine it extra. 

Elsie: Clarify what that’s. 

Emma: Yeah, principally I realized about it from my laser hair elimination technician, and every time I used to be pregnant, I received this sort of damaged blood vessels on my face. Not tons, however one was like proper in the course of my brow and I overlook the place the opposite ones have been. I had one proper beneath my collarbone. A few different locations, and particularly the one proper in the course of my brow simply actually bothered me it made me really feel like I needed to put on make-up or it was simply extraordinarily outstanding. Being pregnant is so unusual it simply does all kinds of unusual issues to your physique and I’m so grateful for the expertise, however I didn’t love this damaged blood vessel and I realized that I might eliminate it with a vascular laser. So all they do is, it’s only one little zap and so they can take away it to allow them to eliminate damaged blood vessels and in addition cherry moles and some different little issues. It received’t take away all the things. For those who’re like, I’ve freckles, I don’t assume it really works for that. However you already know, little issues like that. And I’ve really gone now a few instances I received issues completed after I used to be completed being pregnant, so I might eliminate that damaged blood vessels from that have. And I’ve received a couple of extra like cherry molds completed since then which can be simply in locations the place it’s like, on my boob, however in a spot the place you see it once I’m sporting a swimsuit and I used to be like, I simply don’t love that that is such a giant cherry mole, I’d wish to get it eliminated. It’s my physique, my alternative. In order that’s one thing that I’d and have completed and it’s good. And in addition simply, I do know that is all about self-care and it’s just a little bit like visible stuff, however I form of wanna put this on the market too. The place I went for the vascular laser was a dermatologist and I additionally assume it’s a extremely good thought to get checked for pores and skin most cancers. Possibly not yearly, it relies on your sort of pores and skin and the way a lot you’re within the solar, however it is best to do it for those who’ve by no means completed it and also you’re an grownup listening, it is best to do it after which see what they suggest. Like how usually so that you can are available since you simply by no means know. Like we had a grandma who had some pores and skin most cancers, and for those who catch issues like that early on, a whole lot of instances they will take away it and also you received’t have huge points. There’s generally a spot in your again and you may’t see it, and also you don’t at all times do an important job getting sunscreen there as a result of you’ll be able to’t attain it. It’s simply good to get issues checked out, so try this. Make your companions do it. It’s good to do. 

Elsie: Yeah, completely. I do know we’ve each tried micro-needling. I’ve completed micro-needling with P R P, which I believe can be referred to as the Vampire Facial, it’s actually gross wanting. I believed it was fairly enjoyable, I preferred it. 

Emma: What does it do? Inform individuals, why is it referred to as Vampire Facial? 

Elsie: So to start with, you need to get your blood drawn after which they spin the blood in order that it’s solely like a part of it, some form of like platelets or one thing. I really assume it is best to go on a Med Spas web site and examine this and don’t simply go by my description of it as a result of I don’t know what I’m speaking about. However then they take that liquid and so everytime you get a micro-needling, there needs to be some form of gel or one thing in your face to microneedle into the pores and skin. In order that they use that as a substitute, they microneedle that into your pores and skin and it’s presupposed to be like a giant collagen booster, that’s why individuals do it. I believe it was just like the Kardashians did it one time or one thing. So I believe that’s why individuals name it the vampire facial. I don’t know the way it received the nickname. Yeah, I attempted that a couple of instances and I believed it was fairly good. I additionally tried, there’s this laser referred to as BBL that you are able to do for like age spots and I’ve tons of solar harm. So I received it on my arms, I received it on my chest, I received it on my face and it’s nice. I’d undoubtedly do it once more. It’s simply good to know, just like the factor you have been saying with the little vein, I’ve a type of, like within the nook of my nostril, I’m gonna go try this now. It’s like some belongings you don’t even understand it’s attainable after which it’s like only one appointment, one little time of getting zapped by a laser, no huge deal. It’s nice. I believe that’s one of many good issues about dwelling at the moment. There are simply so many attention-grabbing issues that individuals can do with lasers that I don’t assume most likely existed even 20 years in the past. 

Emma: Yeah, most likely not. You most likely used to, for those who ever received a foul tattoo, your solely possibility was to cowl it up as a substitute now they will laser it off if you would like. 

Elsie: Okay, so let’s discuss motion and methods to scale back stress. Something that helps you are feeling such as you’re having a more healthy life-style. 

Emma: Yeah. I consider this loads as self-care and psychological well being, however clearly, it’s about health too, so longevity stuff. However I am going to group health, I am going to Physique Pump, which is on the Y M C A, there’s one close by the place I reside. It’s like a 10-minute drive. 

Elsie: These are so enjoyable. I like these lessons. They like music. 

Emma: Sure and I’m the individual within the class who is consistently just a little bit behind. I’m like, do I not have rhythm? What’s mistaken with me? And I’ve additionally tried step aerobics earlier than, I’ve by no means tried Zumba, however I really feel like it will be just like step aerobics, I couldn’t sustain. I like the thought of getting cardio and I like group health they simply inform you what to do and also you simply do it. However I simply don’t have any rhythm, I suppose. I don’t know what’s mistaken with me. I by no means wanna line dance as a result of I’m gonna be the one that can’t do it, who’s identical to consistently just a little behind. However anyway, I do love group health, and what I like about my class is there are many totally different ages and it’s numerous totally different physique sorts. It feels very inclusive. It appears like that is about energy coaching for you. So no matter meaning for you and your degree and simply having the ability to, for me it’s like selecting up my toddler on a regular basis and never feeling like that’s too onerous. So, I like that. After which I’m additionally, whereas I used to be pregnant, I did a whole lot of yoga and I nonetheless do it on occasion now, however I undoubtedly was like in my yoga section whereas I used to be pregnant. And that was actually enjoyable and stress-free and undoubtedly difficult at instances too as a result of your stability modifications in that point. So I believe that’s an important factor to do and I simply did a whole lot of that off YouTube. After which I’m a giant take walks exterior individual too, I simply love strolling, and I get a whole lot of concepts. I de-stress. I do my gratitude observe. So I take into consideration issues I’m grateful for and I believe simply sunshine makes such a giant distinction. And there are particular instances of the yr the place there’s simply not as a lot of it and it’s freezing and I don’t wanna stroll exterior and so generally I don’t if it’s pouring rain all week, then yeah, I don’t get to that week and I can inform a distinction. So, I make a giant effort to do this anytime I can, after which within the hotter months it’s at all times simpler. Contemporary air, sunshine, being exterior, watching all of your neighbor’s homes and being like, find it irresistible, find it irresistible. Don’t like that one. It’s enjoyable. Slack it round, judging. 

Elsie: Yeah, I’m so excited to maneuver to Missouri only for the strolling, as a result of the home peeping on this particular neighborhood is so good. However yeah, I’ve been doing walks this yr and I believe the place I reside at the moment, I believe my stroll is just a little bit boring, I’m not gonna lie. The homes aren’t outdated, I like outdated homes. 

Emma: Yeah, I’ve walked in your neighborhood. It’s okay, it’s just a little boring. 

Elsie: Yeah, I’ve been doing the factor, attempting to be within the solar for half-hour a day is sort of a factor that each therapist recommends, each self-help e-book, identical to each one that is aware of something at all times says it is best to attempt to get just a little little bit of sunshine every single day. In order that’s the explanation that I’ve been doing that. And I’ve a giant audiobook life-style, so it offers me time to do this, which I like. The opposite factor I’m doing lately is a kind of yoga class. So the web site known as The Exercise Witch and it’s presupposed to be a trauma-releasing, like centered yoga factor. So I’m doing that as a result of I like greater than something on the planet, I need to get my outdated trauma. For those who consider that trauma might be saved in your physique, which I believe most individuals do, it’s like, how do you get it out although? If anybody is aware of something, I don’t know, please ship it to me. I’m like obsessive about the topic, however that is the very first thing that I’ve tried that I felt like did something. It’s been good to this point and I believe it’s attention-grabbing. It’s an attention-grabbing factor to strive. I additionally tried reiki therapeutic and for me, I’d undoubtedly do it once more with a distinct practitioner, nevertheless it was like a zero out of 10 for me. I didn’t get what I needed out of the expertise.

Emma: Have you ever tried acupuncture or been to a chiropractor earlier than? I’ve really by no means completed both of these, and I really feel such as you want extra of a cause or a purpose, it’s not identical to a therapeutic massage. So I don’t really feel like that’s come up for me but.

Elsie: I’ve been to a chiropractor however I believe I’m extra all in favour of attempting acupuncture sooner or later. I’d like to strive that, undoubtedly. Okay, so let’s discuss remedy and something within the psychological well being class, even when it’s random, even when it’s small. Similar to something you do that you simply really feel has had a optimistic impact in your psychological well being. So for me, like going into common remedy, it’s one thing I began I believe like three or 4 years in the past, just a little bit earlier than the pandemic began. It’s simply one thing that I needed to do as a result of a few of my associates do it ongoing, common remedy without end, it’s not centered on something, it’s only a observe that you simply do persistently. So I grew to become all in favour of that trigger I used to be simply curious what sort of a distinction it will make and it’s made a giant distinction for me. I’ve had some particular struggles pop up over the previous three years that I wanted to work by. After which a whole lot of the time we go into issues which can be extra like ongoing issues from childhood. Deep-set fears, like issues that I simply need and have to work on, however don’t really feel like I’ve the instruments by myself. Yeah, I’d say the primary neatest thing I’ve ever completed for myself is begin going to remedy each two weeks for no cause aside from it’s like what I do now. 

Emma: Yep. Similar, I am going to remedy at the moment I am going as soon as a month, and each time I’m there I’d wish to e-book my subsequent one. And yeah, form of the identical, I don’t really feel like I’ll essentially go my entire life, however I additionally don’t really feel like, oh, that might be unhealthy if I did that. I believe that having time, making appointments, and in addition it prices a sure amount of cash, are elements. I’ve heard associates earlier than say, effectively, I don’t wanna go to remedy ongoing as a result of I’ll really feel this stress to have one thing mistaken on a regular basis. I solely will go to remedy if there’s one thing mistaken, so I’ll begin making issues a much bigger deal than they are surely or one thing like that. That hasn’t been my expertise. I really feel prefer it’s an important place if there’s something mistaken, quote-unquote, then you’ll be able to clearly discuss it and it’s a protected house the place they’re not gonna share something. My city’s form of a small city, so it’s good to simply have a spot the place you’ll be able to discuss issues actually brazenly. So I do admire that, however I generally share issues that I’m actually completely satisfied about. It makes me really feel like I’ve a spot the place, you already know, you by no means need to really feel such as you’re bragging or being unrelatable to different individuals. And naturally, I do have shut associates and I share optimistic issues with individuals. However I like having a spot the place I can go in and I might say one thing a couple of cash determine. I might say one thing about, simply how I’m like actually happy with one thing and I don’t have to fret about like I’m bragging. I’m like, that is my therapist. I might simply say, I’m actually completely satisfied about this factor. I do that factor the place generally I replay conversations. I’m like, right here’s this little second I had with my good friend or my sister, or my associate, no matter. I really feel like once I try this by myself, generally I can form of dig my heels in on if I believed I used to be proper. They didn’t deal with it proper or no matter. I really feel prefer it’s good to have one other individual with whom you’ll be able to replay a dialog and so long as you’re trustworthy, they will form of allow you to see the place perhaps you possibly can have dealt with that just a little in another way. Possibly you possibly can change your communication fashion just a little bit or perhaps narrowly take a look at this factor, and you possibly can take a look at it in a broader manner and it will change issues. I believe my therapist helps me with that loads, and I notice like, oh yeah, I used to be mistaken. Or identical to, oh, that’s just one manner of it. There are a bunch of different methods I might take a look at it too. And I discover that basically useful too. So yeah, I don’t know. I simply kinda needed to place that on the market if anybody’s like, effectively, there’s nothing mistaken, so I don’t wanna go to remedy. And it’s like, Hey for those who don’t wanna do the appointment, or like the cash doesn’t suit your price range, I get that.

However I don’t assume one thing needs to be mistaken so as so that you can go, I believe you’ll be able to simply attempt to develop into a greater individual. And it’s one instrument on the market. 

Elsie: I strongly agree. I’ve by no means had an expertise the place I felt like I used to be making up issues or making issues worse than they already have been, simply because I wanted one thing to speak about. It’s actually only a protected house the place I can admit issues that I wouldn’t admit in different conditions, which is sweet to have. It’s vital I believe, to have, irrespective of how nice your mates are, your associate, there’s gonna be some issues that you simply don’t discuss. There’s at all times gonna be one thing, one thing that’s simply not comfy or no matter, I believe it’s fantastic. I believe for those who haven’t tried it, don’t choose it. I’m planning to let my children begin quickly and be in ongoing remedy. I need them to expertise it, for it to simply be regular. That’s my purpose is that remedy is simply so regular that it’s boring and never that it’s like some huge factor that implies that there’s like a giant drawback or one thing in any technique to be ashamed of, which is extra like, I believe a factor from the previous that’s hopefully going away. 

Emma: Yeah. I believe making issues regular is sweet. I believe additionally going again to motion, encouraging your child, letting them see that motion’s part of your life and that health is enjoyable and it doesn’t must be a chore and it doesn’t must be solely gymnasium individuals, quote unquote gymnasium individuals try this. It’s like, no, that is regular. And you discover one thing you want. And I believe normalizing that’s actually good and in the identical manner, I believe normalizing remedy sounds actually good too. After which it’s like they will work out the way it suits of their life once they’re older and it might be a whole lot of various things and that’s nice.

Elsie: Okay. I’ve another factor that’s within the what helps within the psychological well being class. So for me, one in every of my largest objectives for myself, but additionally simply as a mother or father, is that I need to at all times be studying and I don’t at all times be making issues. So I believe making extra time in my life for each of these issues since I’ve develop into an avid reader that has actually modified my life. And I believe pottery has actually modified my life as a result of simply having issues that aren’t work-related, I accomplish that many inventive issues for our work, however that’s not the identical factor as making stuff only for enjoyable, and in reality, they’re very totally different. The stakes are totally different, the stress’s totally different. The quantity that I can calm down and luxuriate in may be very in another way. So I believe simply making extra space for issues I get pleasure from, as small as that may sound, it’s a factor that was a lacking puzzle piece for a very long time and now it’s develop into a necessary psychological well being savior for me.

Emma: Yep. I couldn’t agree extra. That’s why I’ve my bizarre jewelry-making passion. 

Elsie: Sure. I like that. For those who guys comply with Emma’s Instagram, she posts new necklaces that she’s making on a regular basis it’s so cute and it makes me so completely satisfied and it makes me wanna make one thing. So, yeah, I believe for those who’re not making time for your self, particularly for those who’re a mother with younger children as a result of that’s the place we’ve been, simply strive it. Simply find time for one factor that’s only for you, simply begin.

Emma: The one different factor I needed so as to add on this part is having associates, having shut associates, and I’ll simply put this on the market. There have been a few years of my life the place principally Elsie and Trey have been my solely associates. I used to be identical to constructing my enterprise and simply wanting again, I’m like, I didn’t actually have associates. I solely had my household, which is nice, and I’m grateful I had that. However now I’m in a section of my life, particularly the final three to 5 years the place I’ve a extremely nice group of associates. They’re principally on this e-book membership that I am going to, and I’m simply actually grateful for it. And I additionally notice I believe for a very long time I didn’t notice that I used to be form of asking an excessive amount of of these relationships, of my friendship with you, Elsie, and in addition my relationship with my husband. You’ll be able to’t actually anticipate your associate to be all the things for you. That’s simply a lot. And so now I really feel like I’ve this group of associates that could be a supply of consolation and love, and so they problem me on issues. They make me take into consideration issues in another way. We don’t all consider precisely the identical manner or have the very same political opinions, and I really actually like that. Yeah, we learn books collectively which can be form of within the private improvement class, but additionally principally we’re simply there for one another. And when somebody’s going by one thing onerous, they will discuss it. And I’m simply actually grateful to have friendships. And I believe while you’re an grownup, it may be form of difficult to make. associates however I believe having this group has made me much more assured in reaching out to different individuals who aren’t even on this e-book membership, simply to be like, I wanna have a good friend and that implies that if I have to e-book one thing with you want three weeks out, I suppose I used to really feel like, oh, that’s form of dorky, I’m attempting too onerous and persons are gonna assume I’m form of dorky. And the reality is, I’m form of dorky and I don’t care. I wish to see you and I’ll attempt to e-book a time with you, and it might be a month from now and it may be a play date or it might be no matter, and I’ll most likely make you a necklace and that’s who I’m. And I’m nice with it as a result of for those who resolve that I’m too dorky for you, I’ve this good friend group I can fall again on. 

Elsie: Yeah. I don’t assume anybody’s ever pondering that, however I perceive it’s very regular to e-book one thing a month away in my good friend group.

Emma: It simply wasn’t in our twenties although, so I really feel like unexpectedly you’re on this section of life the place you need to be a lot extra intentional moderately than identical to everyone was free each weekend and was like already out, so you’ll stumble upon. And now it’s like, no if I’m gonna see you, we’ve gotta make a plan. And it may be squeezed in between nap instances and totally different instances and it feels much more strive onerous I don’t thoughts that I like dwelling an intentional life, however I suppose I at all times felt nervous that individuals have been gonna interpret it. Like, oh wow, you’re gonna e-book this a month out. You’re not chill and I’m like, yeah, I suppose I’m not, I simply wanna see you. 

Elsie: That is smart. There’s a really, very huge distinction from like, oh, we’re at this place, come over right here while you’re in your twenties, and like, let’s have lunch subsequent month. So I get it. I’m very acclimated to that life-style although, I don’t have any associates who assume that we are able to plan one thing the day of. Yeah, however I believe that that’s actually, actually good. I’m glad you might have that group of associates. That sounds actually, actually wholesome and like a giant help system. 

Emma: Yeah, and it’s additionally good when you might have associates who’ve children the same age or older, you may get recommendation about these new phases or you’ll be able to play dates. It’s simply all that stuff. That’s good too. 

Elsie: That’s vital for certain. Okay, so something new you’ve tried lately? I do know you tried the salt float. 

Emma: Yeah, I’m really doing this factor to this point this yr. I hadn’t deliberate it out, it’s simply been taking place, however I do some form of problem each month, like a small factor. Principally what I’m doing is ensuring that my habits are nonetheless serving me. So what I did final month was I did a display time problem. So every week I would really like, I’ve a folder on my telephone that’s I’d screenshot my display time and what I used to be attempting to do was form of gamify it the place I’m attempting to spend much less time on my telephone and particularly much less time on social media and clearly I spend a while there for work. Additionally like maintaining with associates, it wasn’t like a, Oh, I can’t, that is horrible, all the things is unhealthy. I’m simply this behavior, ensuring it’s serving me, ensuring the period of time I’m spending on there, I’m pleased with, and if not altering it. And that was actually optimistic, final month was nice. This month what I’m doing is a TV problem. So principally I’m not watching television within the night. I don’t watch TV throughout the day, however within the evenings, Monday by Thursday. And I nonetheless do on the weekends and I’ll nonetheless watch one thing with Oscar, like watching 20 minutes of vehicles earlier than he goes to mattress, that doesn’t depend, TV for me. I nonetheless need a few of it cuz that’s undoubtedly a time when my husband and I hang around and simply form of like cuddle on the sofa and chill. So I didn’t wanna do no TV as a result of I really feel like I’d miss that. However I even have seen that I’ve a whole lot of books I wanna learn. I’ve all these puzzles that I wanna do, and I haven’t gotten to them but. I’ve my little jewelry-making factor, however I’ve different hobbies. I’ve this clean canvas sitting on an easel in my workplace and I haven’t painted one thing since we moved in. I simply have all this stuff that I’m like, I need to make just a little extra time in my week for actions that I simply need to do. And I believe if I watch much less television, cuz what occurs is we’ll make dinner and we sit down to look at one thing after which we simply keep there. And that’s nice generally, however I wanna deliberately change this up this month and simply see how I’m feeling about that. In order that’s what I’m doing this month and it form of performs into your making a extremely nice self-care cuz I like hobbies that aren’t for work. They’re not for something, I’m not promoting them. I’ve no plans for it. I simply wanna paint one thing. Portray’s, simply one in every of ’em, however yeah, I’ve just a little record on my telephone of issues I’m gonna do that month and a few of them are making, a few of them are nonetheless consuming, like studying books. 

Elsie: I actually don’t have something I’ve tried lately apart from the stuff I already shared. I believe I’m in a survival season as we’re about transfer. Reworking a brand new home and I’m barely getting by. Yeah, I really feel excited to strive extra issues sooner or later. Okay, so is one thing new that you simply wanna strive. Is there something you haven’t gotten to but within the self-care world that you simply need to strive? ​

Emma: I didn’t actually have something for this. Do you might have something new you’re eager to strive?

Elsie: I wanna strive swimming every single day. I’ve by no means actually completed that and I’m solely gonna my swimming pool for like two extra months proper now and it’s simply now we might flip the heater on, however we haven’t completed that but. So I might most likely begin quickly and I simply wanna expertise like every time we first lived right here, Colin was working for me nonetheless and I used to be at all times like, I ought to swim whereas my children are in school. However it’s too embarrassing principally, it’s simply too embarrassing. So I simply by no means did it. In order that’s one thing I’d love to do. I’m on the market with my children and stuff, however I don’t ever do it simply on my own. Even when it’s just a bit bit, that’s one thing I wanna strive as a result of I don’t know, it simply, it seems actually stress-free, and in only a very totally different expertise than enjoying with children to do one thing alone as an grownup. In order that’s one thing I believe could be enjoyable. After which, yeah, while you have been speaking about group health, I used to be eager about that just a little bit. This is likely one of the saddest issues, however the entire time we lived at our outdated home in Nashville, we have been actually, actually removed from a Y M C A, any form of group class. It was simply form of not something close to us in any respect. It was like a 30-minute drive or a 20-minute drive, so I couldn’t wait to maneuver right here. We moved right here to Brentwood and the primary weekend that we have been right here, we joined the Y M C A and took our children swimming within the pool. And I used to be all of the lessons I used to be gonna do and the next week was just like the week of March 14th, 2020 and yeah, we canceled our membership after a couple of months and we by no means went once more. So I suppose I simply didn’t actually contemplate, I received my little train bike, and a whole lot of different issues alongside the best way, however I haven’t actually thought of doing a bunch class. So while you have been saying that, I used to be like, perhaps I ought to strive going to Physique Pump with Emma once I moved. That sounds form of enjoyable, we used to do this once we have been in our twenties and I liked it trigger it was like Nirvana music and pop music and also you simply carry these tiny little weights with a bunch of actually diversely aged individuals and I believe it’s enjoyable. 

Emma: Yep. It’s superior. 

Elsie: Anyway, so yeah, I believe perhaps a bunch class could be a enjoyable factor to strive someday this yr. What about you? 

Emma: No, I don’t have something new for the longer term. I believe I’m simply on my path for now. 

Elsie: Excellent. You’re doing nice. Yeah, and I undoubtedly really feel like I might be doing higher, however I believe I’m happy with myself for getting by what I’ve been getting by lately. It has been extra of a difficult time than normal.

Emma: Yeah, there’s by no means any have to beat your self up about not doing sufficient self-care. There may be simply your life and deciding for those who want some modifications. That’s all No want for any regrets. Yeah, no want for any guilt. 

Elsie: Completely. Okay, so our subsequent phase is a responsible pleasure, treasure, which I don’t assume we’ve completed on occasion and I took, I don’t know the time to spherical up all of my favourite seltzer. So something within the LaCroix class put down all my favourite ones. So I’m gonna hyperlink all of them within the present notes as a result of I form of assume that’s part of it’s you have to see the packaging so that you’re within the retailer. Initially, I’ve at all times liked seltzer drinks, however a few of them are manner higher than others and I do assume it’s an opinion factor. So these are simply my favorites, however I believe that it is best to get those that you simply actually like, and for those who haven’t tried a complete bunch, I believe that’s an vital a part of discovering the most effective ones for you. So my primary favourite one is that this model referred to as Aura Bora, and it’s the cutest, it’s just like the tall, skinny cans. It’s the cutest packaging. And I attempted a bunch of flavors that weren’t good a few years in the past after which lately I noticed it on the retailer once more and I grabbed some. And the flavour that I’m obsessive about is strawberry basil and it actually may as effectively simply be referred to as plain basil as a result of it simply tastes like basil. However for some cause, for me, it’s a ten out of 10. I like basil soda, it’s so good. So for those who see it, get it. And for those who like basil, for those who don’t like basil, undoubtedly don’t get it. I prefer it and it’s attention-grabbing to me. So out of those that you simply generally see on the grocery retailer or Goal, my favourite one by loads is Waterloo model Grape, and it needs to be grape. I believe that the cherry one is okay too, however the grape one for some cause simply has extra taste and it’s actually, actually good. It’s like a soda.

Emma: Yeah, and I suppose I didn’t strive it for a very long time as a result of I used to be like grape, that’s a child grape soda factor, after which I used to be like grape soda is wonderful. 

Elsie: However that is Selzer, it’s totally different. 

Emma: Yeah, it’s totally different anyway, it’s scrumptious. 

Elsie: Yeah. Okay, so in Bubbly or La Croix? I actually assume that these are each simply, okay, the model, however the most effective taste in my view is watermelon or cherry each time. These are normally fairly good in most sorts, in my view. Yeah. I keep away from the Leroy ones which can be like actually, actually frequent. My husband actually likes the pompom moose one and the lime one, and people are like my least favorites. 

Emma: That’s Trey’s favourite too. Him and Jeremy have the identical sparkly water style. 

Elsie: Okay, so there’s this model referred to as Polar that I see each on occasion. And so they have a taste that’s orange vanilla, additionally Kroger. You probably have Kroger in your space they’ve a Kroger model that has orange vanilla and this one is actually polarizing, however I find it irresistible. For me, it’s a ten out of 10. It is sort of a creamsicle sort of taste however clearly, there’s no sugar in any of those in any respect. It’s simply the essence of glowing water. So yeah, I believe for those who like Creamsicle and also you see a type of, undoubtedly strive it cuz it sounds unhealthy however for me, it was actually good. After which, okay I put and collect one simply because I really feel like you need to, it’s the goal model, I put tropical cherry. I believe it’s the most effective one out of all the things they’ve, and it’s form of just like the one I normally get. In order that’s my entire record. Are there some other seltzers that you simply assume are so good that you simply wanna point out?

Emma: I really actually just like the LaCroix one which’s like cola, which I don’t see it fairly often, however I really actually like that one. I don’t know why as a result of I don’t actually drink like Coke or Pepsi once I get a soda, like with sugar in it, I normally get like Sprite as a result of to me that’s just like the childhood soda, I don’t know. However yeah, I kinda just like the cola one, however I’m curious, I simply wanna know what’s your primary least favourite as a result of I’ve one glowing water that I received’t even drink, it’s so unhealthy to me. And it’s additionally a LaCroix. 

Elsie: I personally don’t like Spin Drift, those which have just a little little bit of juice in them and I’ve tried each single variety and I can’t bear in mind there was one which was just a little bit tolerable to me, however I simply personally don’t desire these. 

Emma: Similar. I don’t like all of the manufacturers however the spin drifts are those we see essentially the most usually. That has precise juice in it, I don’t have a tendency to love these ones. I don’t know why my husband likes it, however yeah, it’s not for me. However no, for me it’s the Coconut LaCroix. Have you ever ever heard of that one? I’ve associates it’s like their favourite. However it’s only a polarizing one, in my view, as a result of I really feel like I purchased a case for a celebration as soon as and it was like, individuals have been like, oh my gosh, my favourite. Or they’re like, oh my gosh, no, it tastes like sunscreen.

Elsie: Humorous. I believe my eyes simply skip over that one as a result of I can’t even bear in mind the final time I purchased that one. I’ll say I can drink any of them if I’ve to, if it’s the final one within the fridge, I’ll drink it it doesn’t matter what.

Emma: Apart from coconut, I wouldn’t drink it, however that’s the one one which I’d be like, nah, I’m simply gonna drink faucet water. 

Elsie: Nicely, I’m glad I received that off my chest as a result of I’ve been wanting to do this record for like, 10 years. 

Emma: No, I see you’re going by it and I like, this might be like half an episode if we needed to, I might discuss this for some time.

Elsie: Okay. Inform me your responsible pleasure, treasure. 

Emma: Sure, so I discussed jewellery making, in order that’s form of my responsible pleasure factor. I most likely spend an excessive amount of cash on beads and different jewelry-making provides. I purchased myself a caboodle that has all my stuff in it, nevertheless it’s already full and now I’ve to have one other field. So it’s that form of factor. We’ll hyperlink this within the present notes. However I lately shared this necklace, I used to be engaged on a publish that’s shrinky dink’s final information and it simply goes by learn how to make your individual DIY ones, what papers and kits I like and assume work effectively, and the undertaking that I made to form of showcase as a result of I needed to point out a undertaking on there clearly not identical to papers and issues. Was this e-book covers necklace I made the place it has, I took like a few of my favourite books and I simply received the pictures off the web of the duvet, I made them in shrinky dinks and I actually wanna make them, it’s identical to random favourite books. After which I additionally wanna make a Harry Potter one which’s like all of the Harry Potter e-book covers, so I’m gonna make that. However anyway, I used to be speaking with my good friend, so I discussed my e-book membership and all my associates, a few of us, we’re gonna go to Taylor Swift later this summer season. We’re gonna see the Taylor Swift live performance, we’re actually enthusiastic about that and so they have been like, let’s do a jewelry-making occasion and make friendship bracelets and it might be form of Taylor Swifty, like do some lyrics or no matter. In my thoughts I used to be like, oh, I’m gonna do make my shrinky dinks and I’m gonna make album covers after which they are often like charms that we placed on our bracelets. So I suppose my responsible pleasure is shrinky dinks. 

Elsie: Okay, we’ll hyperlink Emma’s new weblog publish about shrinky inks as a result of it’s actually good. I like that concept for the live performance, I believe that’s so cute. 

Emma: Yeah, it’s identical to enjoyable and random, and I really was simply making that necklace purely for pleasure, however then I used to be like, oh, I’ve been wanting to jot down about shrinky dings, I suppose I might make this right into a weblog publish. A variety of instances our hobbies do flip into work just a little bit, which I don’t thoughts if I really simply love our job too. I’m grateful for the entire thing however there are occasions I strive to not mix the 2 simply so I can maintain issues. However this one ended up blended, which is ok. It doesn’t matter, nevertheless it’s nonetheless gonna be my responsible pleasure for this episode. 

Elsie: I like that. That’s a humorous one.

Emma: Shrinky. Dinks. 

Elsie: Sure. Enjoyable.  All proper. It’s time for a joke or a reality with Marigold. Marigold, do you might have a joke for us? 

Marigold: Sure. What does a rose eat for lunch? A hen salad. 

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